Showing posts with label #agchat. Show all posts
Showing posts with label #agchat. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Agchat - Practical Sustainability

I've mentioned this before, but I log into #Agchat from time to time on Twitter to discuss ag issues.  This past Tuesday (July 13) the topic was Sustainability in Ag.  I thought this could be an interesting discussion - especially if the sustainability of Ag water was discussed.  To offer this as a topic, I shot in the following question (not knowing if it would be used by the moderator or not):  "How important is water resource sustainability to your Ag operation?  If it is, how much control do you have over the issue?"

Anyway, the discussion began with question 1:  "Begin by defining ‘sustainable farming’ and ‘un-sustainable farming’ (with examples)."  The discussion that followed had me scratching my head more often than not.  Right off the bat several of the participants offered:  "..our citrus crop in CA uses 76% less water than conventionally grown citrus & produces 5X more fruit per acre"  and  "Citrus crop uses dense plantings and newer technology" and  "sustainability = producing more with less" and "switching our corn/soys to 20" rows has increased yields and increased use of each acre".  

First of all, I'm pretty sure these folks' definition of sustainability was geared more toward sustaining their own farm/operation than toward sustaining their input resources - like irrigation water.  Simply stated, anytime production yields increase, consumptive water use increases - regardless of how much more or less water you physically apply to the crop.  More often than not the newer technologies transfer the inefficient (non-consumptive) water application to consumptive crop use - hence you don't have to pump as much, but actually use more (demonstrated by the increased yields).  If everyone did this, how can we hope to achieve sustainable water use as our water use continues to increase?

To be fair, there were some good responses too.  One said:  "Regardless of your definition, future impacts must be considered."  I think this participant was seeing the broader picture - at least I hope he or she was.

My question did get posed, but the discussion was ... well, polite.  Responses were:  "is vital to sustainability of life" and "Very important & controlled" and "My friends do a great water training on how to install drip".   Not at all what I was hoping for.

This is when I posed the following discussion point:  "What happens if you have a series of individually sustainable farms, but collectively they are unsustainable?"  It seemed like everyone was focused on what sustainability was for their farm, but refused to consider that collectively they could be having a very unsustainable impact - not so much from what they do to the land, air, water, etc., but certainly from what they take from the land, air and water.  My question was not discussed or even acknowledged.  What do you think?  Was it too cryptic?  Too close to home?

All in all, it was a lively discussion, as it almost always is, but I'm thinking Twitter is simply too limited a venue to seriously discuss any topic - especially in a 2-hour session.  This is where I think Google Wave could do a much better job.

Wednesday, March 24, 2010

#Agchat

I participated in twitter's #Agchat last night since the discussion topic was water.  What an experience!  Probably 100 or so avid #Agchat folks offering insights into water and ag issues - many times simultaneously.

If you've never stopped in, maybe you should give it a try.  The person moderating posts a question that either they pose or has been submitted by one of the participants via twitter - pertaining to the stated topic. Then the comment and discussion begins and you'd better be a fast reader and an even faster texter. The positive aspects of the process are:

1)  Some of the folks have some really useful information they provide;
2)  The entire discussion is normally captured and made available for reflection;
3)  The participants are available for further discussion if necessary;
4)  The participants usually span the entire country; and
4)  The ability to follow any of them via twitter broadens your info-net greatly.

The negative aspects are:

1)  The conversation can be difficult to follow in real time;
2)  The technology doesn't always cooperate; and
3)  With only 134 spaces many ideas are hard to articulate effectively.

All-in-all I enjoy the sessions I have attended.  You don't always have to participate although the moderator usually wants you to introduce yourself upon arrival - and they strive for professional comment and conduct.

If interested, #Agchat (strongly focuses on advocating for all things ag) happens each Tuesday evening from 8:00 PM to 10:00 PM Eastern time and you'll want to use a twitter application like twubs or tweetchat to join so that you can see all the comments.